So my boss is out for the next few days leaving me plenty of time to post on this blog and get some reading done. Anyway, I have a head full of information I need to unload and will do so here, at my leisure...
First order of business: The D3 I went on last night.
So this girl is definitely hot (HB8.5). Actually, it's a long and complicated story none of you probably care to hear, but she's actually HB High School Flirt from Part II of my "PUA Autobiography". Suffice to say I had a checkered history with this girl, randomly ran into her at a bar near my apartment, and have been trying to close her since (with limited success). Anyway, she texts me yesterday to come out with her and her friends for Cinco de Mayo, but I don't want to show up all choded-out and alone. Ga'ash had an internet date and Golden Child's busy with law school finals, so I ended up inviting Casanova from NYC Sarge.
A few notes on Casanova: Ga'ash refers to him as Justin Timberlake and I think that's a pretty fair assessment. However, I'd add if Justin Timberlake was in the Russian Mafia. Cas is a somewhat short, stylish dresser who's been in the community 5 years and speaks with a Russian accent. His phone is full of numbers of every major guru (i.e. Jeffy, Craig from DYD, Badboy, etc.) along with hundreds of PUAs. His computer has over 100 Gigs of videos, ebooks, and audio seminars. He usually offers to do me favors like drive me places and asks me talk about game theory (something I never mind doing lol) and I think he records what I say (???). Anyway, I had plans to meet with him last night so I called him and said, "Cas, change of plans. We're going on a D2 instead."
Obviously he had no objection to this.
When Cas and I show up to the bar, the girls are getting hit on by some chode who looked like an overweight frat guy. Doing what I usually do to guys I don't know, I stepped in front of him, spoke over him, and greeted the girls (this is why I probably so many guys start shit with me haha). The guy immediately tried to "AMOG" me by putting his hands on my shoulder and saying, "Dude, we were having a conversation here."
I just looked at him like he was retarded and kept talking to the girls who were blowing the guy off at this point. The guy, realizing I know the girls, tried to switch his strategy (too late) by befriending me and goes, "Okay bro, high five!"
I half-heartedly high five him but don't even look in his direction as I continue to talk to the girls. Knowing I've now demolished the guys value (he's standing there the whole time with the puppy-dog face...I later found out he bought the girls 2 rounds of drinks so he didn't want to give up on his "investment" too soon) I feel I can leave the set to demonstrate non-neediness. So Cas and I start walking around the venue and end up sitting down and ordering some chicken wings and beer.
The girls come join us and I engage the 2 friends while ignoring my target (who's sitting next to me).
TJ: So who was the creepster you guys were talking to?
HBs: Ahhh, that guy was such a loserrrrrrrrrr!!
TJ: Yeah, HB High School Flirt really knows how to pick em. So what was his great pickup line??
HBs: OMG!!! He came up to us and said, "How many drinks would it take for a guy to buy you before you found him interesting." Before we could answer, he bought us a round of Coronas and said, "Well, let's start with 1." (Side note: I hope you're all cringing)
TJ: BWAHAHHAHAHAHA!!! Are you fucking kidding?!?!?!?! Holy shit, what a date rapist line! Why doesn't he just cut to the chase and tell you he's going to put roofies in your drinks...
HBs: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHHHHHHHHHHH
TJ: Yeah, but you know what. Laugh it up, but girls are SUCH sexual predators. Cas and I were JUST talking about this...
Here's point number 1. Running routines with your wing is a sick, sick DHV. Since I know Cas knows ALL the community routines, I stacked into the TD Sexual Pred routine about dressing up in bitch boots and pulling guys out of the dive bar. Then I said, "Oh shit, Cas tell them about what you were saying about guys and girls having sex..." Which Cas was able to transition into the second part of the routine with the nerve endings. Aside spiking BT, it was a total DHV for both of us because it seemed we were reciting it more for our own entertainment than to "impress" the girls. Also, it allowed us to share the spotlight and isolate (since the two HBs wanted to debate Cas on his point and my target wanted to refute my point).
Since my sarging of HB High Flirt has been rocky, I knew I had to neg her hard. One of the best "negs" to use on girls is comment on their clothing. I'll list a few solid clothing negs I use:
For girls wearing black and white stripes say, "Wow, did you just break out of prison?" or "Oh cool shirt, you look like the Hamburgler."
For girls dressed in all black say, "Nice outfit, you look like stage crew." or "That color combination, or lack thereof, makes you look like an emo princess."
For any other type of clothing say something, "You look so European." (Doesn't make sense but they'll usually be like, "What? Huh? What does that mean?" and you say "You know EXACTLY what it means...") or simply, "That outfit is EVIL. How could you wear that?" (Repeat response for European outfit)
Again, these aren't INSULTS, they're simply playful comments. I used the "stage crew" line on HB High School Flirt and at first she started cracking up, but then she asked two or three times later, "Wait, but does it look bad?" (Which you don't respond to.) After she asked a few times though, I said, "Well, hmmmm..." then I pulled her neckline a little so her pink bra strap showed and said, "Aw pink. Look a glimmer of hope despite all this black." Showing: 1.) Openness to sexual escalation, 2.) Spike BT without choding out and being like, "No! It looks great!"
Okay, but that Day 3 ended up going nowhere (no chance to escalate in front of the friends) but Cas ended up #-closing her cuter friend who seemed into him. One thing of note, Cas recorded a movie of me gaming my target and one of her friends without me knowing it. Literally, he just put the camera on the table and started running a movie. Later in the night, I saw him showing it to Prof Steve and heard my voice coming from the camera. I was amazed to see myself gaming since I had no idea he had recorded. This was great because I got to see myself in set (without me trying to ham it up for the camera); however, I was shocked at how many mistakes I was making. I definitely seemed very hard-hard in the way I was kinoing both of the girls and the way I was using my routines. At points I was pleased with my BL and my roll offs but overall I think the videos will drastically help my game since I can see things I've never noticed I was doing.
Moving on, here's a great opener/routine:
PUA: Hey guys, do you think dogs can be gay?
Then make up some story about how your friend got a dog who compulsively humps other male dogs. Girls eat this shit up. In fact, I put this to great use with my pivot a few weeks back. So I have this VERY attractive pivot (HB9) who I'm half using as a pivot, half gaming (only made out with her but still...). While she knows I game other girls (and is into it), I don't want to divulge too much of what I'm doing to her for fear of coming off creepy. So here's a great way to bait your pivot into encouraging you to open:
TJ: So HB9 Pivot, we've been having this heated debate at work: Can dogs be gay?
HB9 Pivot: (Answers, whatever)
TJ: That is SUCH a typical girl answer. I'll bet if you asked 10 girls, 9 would you say the EXACT same thing. And the 1 who didn't probably is actually a man anyway.
HB Pivot: Hahahaha, yes/no/whatever.... You should ask a girl!
TJ: Hmmm okay, (turns to adjacent set) HEY GUYS! My girlfriend and I were just having this debate...
I was opening sets like butter using this method. It's such easy callback humor/set opening routine. Just use whatever happened in the set as evidence to support your case (which your pivot will be like, "Well, ask another girl") OR as an anomaly (which you say, "Let's get another opinion"). Boom, social proof.
Anyway, other things I want to point out were mentioned by Warlock in his Newbie Sarge FR. To bring you up to speed, Dave Love Pirate asked me to help out with this newbie sarge he set up. It was basically a night where the guys from the NYC Sarge forum were going to meet up and run sets. I was under the impression I was just going to critique these guys and didn't think I'd end up running any serious sets. I was also especially excited to meet these guys who call themselves The Legion of Superfreaks. If you guys get a free moment, read some of Warlock's LOSF FRs, they're awesome!
So, I show up to this thing and am shocked at the turnout. There were close to 30 guys!! Dave was in his glory as he lives for the community and helping newbs. After some bullshitting and ice-breaking, we head to what has come to be known as the "PUA Okay Corral" and run game. Warlock wrote up a very telling description so I won't reiterate what he wrote. But you should notice two things he pointed out:
1.) I have other people spot my sets for me
2.) I open as if I'm just wandering by and happen to notice HBs
Okay, so first point: I have other people spot my sets for me. This is a KEY KEY KEY part in opening. Usually I'll say to my wing, "Okay, spot a set and I'll open." This will make your AA non-existent and create an AWESOME spontaneous vibe. Why? Well, picture it:
My wing and I are talking as my back is facing the set I want to open. My wing says, "Okay, over your shoulder, there's a HOT mixed three set. Open!" Before I even look at them, I'm already turning my head and saying, "Hey guys!" This disarms any bitch shield or AMOGs because you're entering the set AS IF THEY'RE ANYONE. For all they know, you had no idea what they looked like or who they were. As you turn around, you deliver the rest of your opener, i.e.: "Real quick, do you guys think dogs can be gay?" Opening this way seems TRULY genuine and not try-hard at all. It really appears as if you're just talking to your friend and you're turning to the nearest strangers being social. If the set you want to approach is not adjacent to you, refer to my second point...
....I open as if I'm just walking and happen to notice HBs. This sort of opener works just like casually asking over your shoulder. I usually walk by, big smile on my face, then stop as if an after thought and say my opener. Again, with practice you'll seem as if you're a super high value guy living in his own reality who just likes to talk to people. These are KEY body language techniques that will open every set for you, regardless of what you use as your opener.
Finally, I want to report on a great tactic I use that incorporates my second point. Okay, so if you guys remember my FR/LR about HB9 Asian Model. This girl was smoking hot but was hanging out with a bitchy friend. Anyway, I don't want to rehash that story since you can just click on the link, but one set NO ONE saw me run at the newbie sarge was easily my best set.
So, I saw this smoking hot 4-set walk by (3 girls and 1 dude). Two girls in the set were blonde bombshell 10s. They looked like twins, one good and one evil. One was dressed in black, the other in white. They let the chode guy they were walking around with buy them a bottle of wine then sat at a table in almost the EXACT spot I picked up Asian Model. See, the problem with this position is it's out on balcony at a table in a corner. Opening means immediately throwing your IOI card on the table because there's NO REASON why anyone would walk to a corner to ask a random question on the sexuality of dogs. So the indirect opinion opener is completely out the question. However, not knowing the relationship of the guy to the girls, going direct is also out of the question. What to do, what to do? When I saw the HB Blonde 10 Dressed in Black get up, I knew what I had to do...
TJ: (Walks past HB10 Blonde In Block, looks over balcony at the NYC skyline) Hey dude, I'm not from around here. What part of Manhattan am I looking at?
HB10 Blonde in Black: Hey dude? Gentlemen don't call girls dudes.
TJ: Yeah, but it was such a cool Nickelodeon show.
HB10 Blonde in Black: HAHAHA, I remember that one.
TJ: But Salute Your Shorts was wayyyy better. I wanted to go to Camp Ontowana so bad. I remember the day I found out it was just a t.v. show, my dreams were crushed...
HB10 Blonde in Black: Hahahaha, yeah that was a good one, too.
TJ: So dude, what part of Manhattan am I looking at?
HB10 Blonde in Black: (Looks at TJ like 'you didn't just call me 'dude' again') That's the Lower East Side.
TJ: Cool, so get this...(stacks into something ridiculous)
(Once BT is spike and I've gotten several IOIs)
TJ: I can't believe you.
HB10 BIB: What?
TJ: No, I mean for a smart girl I can't believe you haven't figured it out yet.
HB10 BIB: Figured what out?
TJ: You can't tell from my accent...
HB10 BIB: I have no idea what you're talking about.
TJ: My accent is straight New York. I can't believe you actually believed me what I said I wasn't from here. I know that's the Lower East Side...
HB10 BIB: (Punches TJ's arm) Then why'd you come over here and ask???
TJ: (Smile) Well, you looked interesting with your little black turtle neck and classy glass of wine. I noticed you and I was like, 'I gotta find out if that girl's cool or she's just a poser.' But I couldn't just come over like all these schmucks (points over balcony) so I had to have a pretense. Even though you failed my gullibility test, you've racked up some cool points with me.
HB10 BIB: You shit! Hahahaha, I can't believe you!
Calibration is key.
PAX.
~TJ
First order of business: The D3 I went on last night.
So this girl is definitely hot (HB8.5). Actually, it's a long and complicated story none of you probably care to hear, but she's actually HB High School Flirt from Part II of my "PUA Autobiography". Suffice to say I had a checkered history with this girl, randomly ran into her at a bar near my apartment, and have been trying to close her since (with limited success). Anyway, she texts me yesterday to come out with her and her friends for Cinco de Mayo, but I don't want to show up all choded-out and alone. Ga'ash had an internet date and Golden Child's busy with law school finals, so I ended up inviting Casanova from NYC Sarge.
A few notes on Casanova: Ga'ash refers to him as Justin Timberlake and I think that's a pretty fair assessment. However, I'd add if Justin Timberlake was in the Russian Mafia. Cas is a somewhat short, stylish dresser who's been in the community 5 years and speaks with a Russian accent. His phone is full of numbers of every major guru (i.e. Jeffy, Craig from DYD, Badboy, etc.) along with hundreds of PUAs. His computer has over 100 Gigs of videos, ebooks, and audio seminars. He usually offers to do me favors like drive me places and asks me talk about game theory (something I never mind doing lol) and I think he records what I say (???). Anyway, I had plans to meet with him last night so I called him and said, "Cas, change of plans. We're going on a D2 instead."
Obviously he had no objection to this.
When Cas and I show up to the bar, the girls are getting hit on by some chode who looked like an overweight frat guy. Doing what I usually do to guys I don't know, I stepped in front of him, spoke over him, and greeted the girls (this is why I probably so many guys start shit with me haha). The guy immediately tried to "AMOG" me by putting his hands on my shoulder and saying, "Dude, we were having a conversation here."
I just looked at him like he was retarded and kept talking to the girls who were blowing the guy off at this point. The guy, realizing I know the girls, tried to switch his strategy (too late) by befriending me and goes, "Okay bro, high five!"
I half-heartedly high five him but don't even look in his direction as I continue to talk to the girls. Knowing I've now demolished the guys value (he's standing there the whole time with the puppy-dog face...I later found out he bought the girls 2 rounds of drinks so he didn't want to give up on his "investment" too soon) I feel I can leave the set to demonstrate non-neediness. So Cas and I start walking around the venue and end up sitting down and ordering some chicken wings and beer.
The girls come join us and I engage the 2 friends while ignoring my target (who's sitting next to me).
TJ: So who was the creepster you guys were talking to?
HBs: Ahhh, that guy was such a loserrrrrrrrrr!!
TJ: Yeah, HB High School Flirt really knows how to pick em. So what was his great pickup line??
HBs: OMG!!! He came up to us and said, "How many drinks would it take for a guy to buy you before you found him interesting." Before we could answer, he bought us a round of Coronas and said, "Well, let's start with 1." (Side note: I hope you're all cringing)
TJ: BWAHAHHAHAHAHA!!! Are you fucking kidding?!?!?!?! Holy shit, what a date rapist line! Why doesn't he just cut to the chase and tell you he's going to put roofies in your drinks...
HBs: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHHHHHHHHHHH
TJ: Yeah, but you know what. Laugh it up, but girls are SUCH sexual predators. Cas and I were JUST talking about this...
Here's point number 1. Running routines with your wing is a sick, sick DHV. Since I know Cas knows ALL the community routines, I stacked into the TD Sexual Pred routine about dressing up in bitch boots and pulling guys out of the dive bar. Then I said, "Oh shit, Cas tell them about what you were saying about guys and girls having sex..." Which Cas was able to transition into the second part of the routine with the nerve endings. Aside spiking BT, it was a total DHV for both of us because it seemed we were reciting it more for our own entertainment than to "impress" the girls. Also, it allowed us to share the spotlight and isolate (since the two HBs wanted to debate Cas on his point and my target wanted to refute my point).
Since my sarging of HB High Flirt has been rocky, I knew I had to neg her hard. One of the best "negs" to use on girls is comment on their clothing. I'll list a few solid clothing negs I use:
For girls wearing black and white stripes say, "Wow, did you just break out of prison?" or "Oh cool shirt, you look like the Hamburgler."
For girls dressed in all black say, "Nice outfit, you look like stage crew." or "That color combination, or lack thereof, makes you look like an emo princess."
For any other type of clothing say something, "You look so European." (Doesn't make sense but they'll usually be like, "What? Huh? What does that mean?" and you say "You know EXACTLY what it means...") or simply, "That outfit is EVIL. How could you wear that?" (Repeat response for European outfit)
Again, these aren't INSULTS, they're simply playful comments. I used the "stage crew" line on HB High School Flirt and at first she started cracking up, but then she asked two or three times later, "Wait, but does it look bad?" (Which you don't respond to.) After she asked a few times though, I said, "Well, hmmmm..." then I pulled her neckline a little so her pink bra strap showed and said, "Aw pink. Look a glimmer of hope despite all this black." Showing: 1.) Openness to sexual escalation, 2.) Spike BT without choding out and being like, "No! It looks great!"
Okay, but that Day 3 ended up going nowhere (no chance to escalate in front of the friends) but Cas ended up #-closing her cuter friend who seemed into him. One thing of note, Cas recorded a movie of me gaming my target and one of her friends without me knowing it. Literally, he just put the camera on the table and started running a movie. Later in the night, I saw him showing it to Prof Steve and heard my voice coming from the camera. I was amazed to see myself gaming since I had no idea he had recorded. This was great because I got to see myself in set (without me trying to ham it up for the camera); however, I was shocked at how many mistakes I was making. I definitely seemed very hard-hard in the way I was kinoing both of the girls and the way I was using my routines. At points I was pleased with my BL and my roll offs but overall I think the videos will drastically help my game since I can see things I've never noticed I was doing.
Moving on, here's a great opener/routine:
PUA: Hey guys, do you think dogs can be gay?
Then make up some story about how your friend got a dog who compulsively humps other male dogs. Girls eat this shit up. In fact, I put this to great use with my pivot a few weeks back. So I have this VERY attractive pivot (HB9) who I'm half using as a pivot, half gaming (only made out with her but still...). While she knows I game other girls (and is into it), I don't want to divulge too much of what I'm doing to her for fear of coming off creepy. So here's a great way to bait your pivot into encouraging you to open:
TJ: So HB9 Pivot, we've been having this heated debate at work: Can dogs be gay?
HB9 Pivot: (Answers, whatever)
TJ: That is SUCH a typical girl answer. I'll bet if you asked 10 girls, 9 would you say the EXACT same thing. And the 1 who didn't probably is actually a man anyway.
HB Pivot: Hahahaha, yes/no/whatever.... You should ask a girl!
TJ: Hmmm okay, (turns to adjacent set) HEY GUYS! My girlfriend and I were just having this debate...
I was opening sets like butter using this method. It's such easy callback humor/set opening routine. Just use whatever happened in the set as evidence to support your case (which your pivot will be like, "Well, ask another girl") OR as an anomaly (which you say, "Let's get another opinion"). Boom, social proof.
Anyway, other things I want to point out were mentioned by Warlock in his Newbie Sarge FR. To bring you up to speed, Dave Love Pirate asked me to help out with this newbie sarge he set up. It was basically a night where the guys from the NYC Sarge forum were going to meet up and run sets. I was under the impression I was just going to critique these guys and didn't think I'd end up running any serious sets. I was also especially excited to meet these guys who call themselves The Legion of Superfreaks. If you guys get a free moment, read some of Warlock's LOSF FRs, they're awesome!
So, I show up to this thing and am shocked at the turnout. There were close to 30 guys!! Dave was in his glory as he lives for the community and helping newbs. After some bullshitting and ice-breaking, we head to what has come to be known as the "PUA Okay Corral" and run game. Warlock wrote up a very telling description so I won't reiterate what he wrote. But you should notice two things he pointed out:
1.) I have other people spot my sets for me
2.) I open as if I'm just wandering by and happen to notice HBs
Okay, so first point: I have other people spot my sets for me. This is a KEY KEY KEY part in opening. Usually I'll say to my wing, "Okay, spot a set and I'll open." This will make your AA non-existent and create an AWESOME spontaneous vibe. Why? Well, picture it:
My wing and I are talking as my back is facing the set I want to open. My wing says, "Okay, over your shoulder, there's a HOT mixed three set. Open!" Before I even look at them, I'm already turning my head and saying, "Hey guys!" This disarms any bitch shield or AMOGs because you're entering the set AS IF THEY'RE ANYONE. For all they know, you had no idea what they looked like or who they were. As you turn around, you deliver the rest of your opener, i.e.: "Real quick, do you guys think dogs can be gay?" Opening this way seems TRULY genuine and not try-hard at all. It really appears as if you're just talking to your friend and you're turning to the nearest strangers being social. If the set you want to approach is not adjacent to you, refer to my second point...
....I open as if I'm just walking and happen to notice HBs. This sort of opener works just like casually asking over your shoulder. I usually walk by, big smile on my face, then stop as if an after thought and say my opener. Again, with practice you'll seem as if you're a super high value guy living in his own reality who just likes to talk to people. These are KEY body language techniques that will open every set for you, regardless of what you use as your opener.
Finally, I want to report on a great tactic I use that incorporates my second point. Okay, so if you guys remember my FR/LR about HB9 Asian Model. This girl was smoking hot but was hanging out with a bitchy friend. Anyway, I don't want to rehash that story since you can just click on the link, but one set NO ONE saw me run at the newbie sarge was easily my best set.
So, I saw this smoking hot 4-set walk by (3 girls and 1 dude). Two girls in the set were blonde bombshell 10s. They looked like twins, one good and one evil. One was dressed in black, the other in white. They let the chode guy they were walking around with buy them a bottle of wine then sat at a table in almost the EXACT spot I picked up Asian Model. See, the problem with this position is it's out on balcony at a table in a corner. Opening means immediately throwing your IOI card on the table because there's NO REASON why anyone would walk to a corner to ask a random question on the sexuality of dogs. So the indirect opinion opener is completely out the question. However, not knowing the relationship of the guy to the girls, going direct is also out of the question. What to do, what to do? When I saw the HB Blonde 10 Dressed in Black get up, I knew what I had to do...
TJ: (Walks past HB10 Blonde In Block, looks over balcony at the NYC skyline) Hey dude, I'm not from around here. What part of Manhattan am I looking at?
HB10 Blonde in Black: Hey dude? Gentlemen don't call girls dudes.
TJ: Yeah, but it was such a cool Nickelodeon show.
HB10 Blonde in Black: HAHAHA, I remember that one.
TJ: But Salute Your Shorts was wayyyy better. I wanted to go to Camp Ontowana so bad. I remember the day I found out it was just a t.v. show, my dreams were crushed...
HB10 Blonde in Black: Hahahaha, yeah that was a good one, too.
TJ: So dude, what part of Manhattan am I looking at?
HB10 Blonde in Black: (Looks at TJ like 'you didn't just call me 'dude' again') That's the Lower East Side.
TJ: Cool, so get this...(stacks into something ridiculous)
(Once BT is spike and I've gotten several IOIs)
TJ: I can't believe you.
HB10 BIB: What?
TJ: No, I mean for a smart girl I can't believe you haven't figured it out yet.
HB10 BIB: Figured what out?
TJ: You can't tell from my accent...
HB10 BIB: I have no idea what you're talking about.
TJ: My accent is straight New York. I can't believe you actually believed me what I said I wasn't from here. I know that's the Lower East Side...
HB10 BIB: (Punches TJ's arm) Then why'd you come over here and ask???
TJ: (Smile) Well, you looked interesting with your little black turtle neck and classy glass of wine. I noticed you and I was like, 'I gotta find out if that girl's cool or she's just a poser.' But I couldn't just come over like all these schmucks (points over balcony) so I had to have a pretense. Even though you failed my gullibility test, you've racked up some cool points with me.
HB10 BIB: You shit! Hahahaha, I can't believe you!
Calibration is key.
PAX.
~TJ
5 comments:
Ahh I love reading your posts man, I'm gonna be on fire at school tomorrow thinking about the HB10 twins.
One question though, you are always mentioning buying temperature and spiking it. Question is: How do you spike it so quickly? Maybe I am not understanding BT properly but I thought it was kind of like the positive energy of your set?
Haha thanks Shadow...I spoke with HB10 BIB for an hour on the phone yesterday. Hoping to make the D2 happen soon.
Okay so with regards to buying temperature, I define BT rather loosely so I'd say it's ANY emotion you get a girl to feel. For example, the way HB10 BIB got pissed off I called her "dude" was a BT spike. It doesn't matter if the spike if positive or negative, it's simply a spike. (This is why women love jerks and soap opera: it gets them feeling emotions.) Honestly, the worst sets I approach are the ones who show mild interest in what I'm saying and answer me emotionless. I'd rather a girl scream at me to fuck myself than have a girl not react at all. HOWEVER, don't take this too far. For me, the most reliable BT spikes I use are 1.) humor, 2.) push/pull, 3.) storytelling. So with HB10 BIB here are some of the examples of the BT spike I left out (this isn't exactly how it went down, but it's the jist of it):
TJ: Cool, so get this. Last time I was here this fat girl was following me around ALL NIGHT!
HB10 BIB: Hahaha, nooooooo...so what'd you do?
TJ: I did what any guy would do...I fucked her in the bathroom.
HB10 BIB: !!!!!
TJ: Oh my God, you totally believed me. Noooooooo, I just lead her on and had her buy me drinks all night then I peaced out with my buddies.
HB10 BIB: Hahaha, you're sort of a jerk!
TJ: How can you say that? I'm like the sweetest guy you'll ever meet...I write poetry for girls and chisel ice sculptures. I'm such a sucker for Michael Bolton songs and long, romantic walks on the beach...
HB10 BIB: Hahahaha, stop!!!! You're such a bullshitter!
TJ: Wow, I just noticed something about you. You're totally feisty. I'll bet you break dude's balls all the time...
HB10 BIB: No! I'm such a nice girl!
TJ: Oh man, I was hoping you were a ball buster. I've been looking for a girl to take on the road with me, be my partner in crime. I guess you're not that girl. I'm gonna get you a oneway ticket for the friend zone. That's cool though, I need some more girl friends.
HB10 BIB: Wait, I mean I do bust balls every once in a while. It depends on the guy. Like if a guy's a total creep -
TJ: I LOVE YOU! (Hug) Okay, you're my girlfriend for the next five minutes. And as part of your girlfriend duties we're going on a crime spree together. We're gonna tie bandannas around our mouthes like villains from a Western and we'll ride a black horse. I'm gonna put you on the back like this. (Turns and wraps her arms around my waist, talks over the shoulder) Since I'm the man in this relationship, I'll carry a sixshooter right here (places her hand on my hip) and you can wear a big pink cowboy hat. Then I'm totally gonna get you some matching pink cowboy boots. You'll be the most stylish Western villain the West has ever seen.
HB10 BIB: OMG!!! I have red cowboy boots!!!! I'm from Georgia!!!!
TJ: But I want you to wear pink cowboy boots. You'd look much...sexier...or gayer...
HB10 BIB: Ahhhhh!!! Noooooooo, I'm gonna make YOU wear the pink cowboy boots and I'll carry the sixshooter!
TJ: Okay, that's it. We're broken up. I'm gonna turn you in the sheriff, collect the reward, and construct a harem of fat girls. I'll fuck them all in the bathroom of (name of lounge we were at) to make sure they're up to my standards.
HB10 BIB: AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! WHO ARE YOU??? Hahahahaha
TJ: I can't tell you my name, you'll totally rat ME out to the sheriff. Do you think I'm retarded?
Ect., etc.
Again, this isn't the exact conversation that went down but you get the idea how I do this. I basically keep saying random shit that excites/humors/annoys/pisses off/intrigues, etc. Any emotion is better than no emotion. You want to keep a positive energy and remain non-reaction seeking, but you also don't want to walk on eggshells and say shit that's only "chick approved". I usually throw in a couple "jerk" lines like the stuff about fucking fat girls in a bathroom (that one is a little risky and requires some calibration so I wouldn't recommend it). But I also swing the other way and joke around about being "really sweet", sometimes I even tell girls I'm a virgin and I've never kissed a girl (they never believe me). The key is keep saying shit that almost seems like you're fucking with them but is still FUN. I could write for hours on this so let me know if this answers your question.
No that makes sense now. I'm going to try out some of those jerk lines. Thanks!
TJ, this is one of the best FRs/LRs that I've read.
That is some crazy shit. I see that you can do easy rapport building. I somewhat have problems with that now and I'm pretty disappointed about where my game is heading.
So yeah.
Props to you!
Are all writers good at gaming? Nice FR.
BT spikes either way are good stuff. Shows emotional investment on her part. It's a little risky to piss her off, but if you've built attraction she'll come back. I did something similar the other night with a palm read. The dominant hand (who you are now) said not passionate, the nondominant (what you want to be) said passionate. A no-brainer, since she just spent 10 minutes telling me how she has to hide her tattoos at work. I said 'looks like you're not too passionate, though you'd really like to be...what are we gonna do about this?' This got her pissed (I could see the gears grinding...so, you think I'm not passionate, huh??) and she ran off to the bathroom. A little non-neediness and a few minutes later she was timebridging me. You just have to stand firm after lobbing these IODs.
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