I've been talking to girls like...ever since. I'm shy at first, but I don't count myself as shy anymore. Why am I even labeling myself? She labels me.
So anyways, I'm currently talking to this Puerto Rican chick from Connecticut. She came down to Philly today.
Conversation went like this:
Hengman - Hi. What's the password?
Her - Pretty please?
Hengman - I CAN'T believe you forgot our password, but you know what that means? Anyways, I'm Jerry with a G. (yes, yes, thank you, TJ)
Her - Sorry when you was giving me the password. I was looking for my penny. I am Gisela with a G. Nice to meet you too.
I WTFed for a little then went back into charge.
Me - Nice to meet you, Gisela with a G. Well, anyways, you are wearing the fuckin' brightest dress that I EVER saw. Later, Cinderella.
Her - Is it really bright? I might have to get changed. Cinderella? That's cute.
Me - Yeah! And you know it! I'll so give you the trophy for your bright ass dress.
Her - That'd be a cool reward. Anyways, my nickname is Honey.
Me - Honey?! I love honey. That reminds me, but I need to get me another jar of honey. I just ran out today when I was putting it in my oatmeal. Thanks for reminding me. Anyways, I got a game for you. Answer this: Okay, so it's 4:15 PM on a saturday afternoon, we are traveling 90 miles per hours in a really nice...yellow ...Mercedes. Where are we going and why? After you answer, it's your turn for a question.
Her - Wow! I have never played this game before. Well, we're going 90 miles fast heading to Cancun, Mexico, and being close to the ocean, and because it's fun. Oh, and yellow is my favorite color. I have to ask now, so we are in a plane -- where are we going?
Me - On a plane, eh? Nice. Since you said Cancun, it sounds good! I would ALWAYS love to go there. And yellow is your favorite color, too! I can't believe it. I am so jealous of you. But anyways, I just thought I'd talk to you, and I thought you were cute and we should chill sometime. Got a number that I can call you with? I promise to only call you like 11 times a day!
I set up a day 2 and I never get a number. She then never gives me the number. I tried again and again. What a weird ass moment!
My target:
Thanks for reading!Love,
Hengman.
6 comments:
First of all, PA PUA's represent!!! Pittsburgh here.
Damn!! SHe never gave you the number? I have used that same line, "i will only call you x times a day" and it has always worked.
Your attraction was tight, however in your post i missed the comfort zone. As Mehow says, you gotta be 'real' during comfort. I have a feeling that if you established some commonalities after those kick ass attraction routines, she would not have flaked on the number.
Make sure your "WTFed" comes after attraction. Lol, and your right. She was attracted and didnt give you the number? that is a weird ass moment!!
Hengman -
Welcome! Great post, I'm looking forward to reading more stuff from you.
Anyway, I like reading your FR's because you have a unique style when creating attraction. I do the same bizarre shit to girls and usually get attraction just because my frame is strong and I make them think whatever I'm saying is funny. (Last night I was out with The Golden Child and he used the "My name's Zack with Z" and the girl responded with something retarded like, "What? Are we all spelling out our names now?" So, seeing this as shit-test for me to jump into, I meant to say, "Easy there Oscar the Grouch, why don't you go chill out in your garbage can for a few" but had a brain fart and instead said, "Easy Cookie Monster. C is for Cookie!!!" (Makes absolutely no sense in the context of the conversation other than the fact we were spelling things), but, because I said it with authority all the girls started cracking up and the callback humor for the set was, "C is for cookie!"
Anyway, I love acting like I'm 6 years old.
Oh, re: phone numbers...if you have attraction you can ALWAYS get the number. It seems from the transcript this girl was into you and her not giving you the phone number was simply a shit-test. I actually had a similar situation last Saturday. I was out and running game on the 35-year-old cutie. She was one of these girls who was very responsive to my humor and my game and I could tell she def into me. The guys wanted to venue change, so I said to her, "Okay, we're leaving. But we're hanging out again. Give me your number." She responded with, "No, I don't give my number to guys who are 10 years younger than me." I looked her in the eye, said, "I'm going to give you 10 seconds to get over this age thing. Then, I'm going to hand you my phone and you're going to put your number in." She responded with, "Okay, I'll tell it to you quickly and if you can remember it, you can call me. It's 555-666-7777 (whatever)" At this point, I realized what she was doing: Using the phone number as a little hoop to re-frame the convo that I was the one chasing her. So, I smiled and said, "Okay, I'm too old for these games. I don't memorize numbers. Have a nice night." and did a take away. She ran after me, grabbed my arm and said, "Fine, fine. Give me your phone." When I pulled it out, she just called out the number again quickly (another shit-test), so I shook my head and started to put the phone away. She grabbed it out of my hands and programed her number in (hilariously, because she did it so emphatically she spelled her name wrong lol). Anyway, she's been VERY responsive to calls/texts since.
Basically, what I learned from that little "fiasco" is girls use things like numbers like they use sex. See, for AFCs "getting a number" is like f-closing for us. They go nuts over it. It's an end in itself. So, girls are used to guys begging for numbers like they beg for sex. Once a girl sees an AFC do this a few times, she probably thinks, "Hmmm...I can use giving out my number as a way to get power over these guys" and starts pulling the games I mentioned above. As long as you act completely confident she WILL you give you the number, it'll happen. Just act unfazed when she says no and keep plowing. Once she starts breaking down, re-frame the situation and get HER to chase.
There's more to this which I'll try to detail in a later post.
For now, PAX, works over and it's time to sarge.
~TJ
Hey, guys. Thanks for commenting.
I-Man, I did WAY more after that (I was vibing with her afterwards), but I was too tired to post it. The conversation was just fuckin' long. And, TJ, I TOTALLY agree with her shit testing me. Have you ever been in Philly?
And TJ, your style is EXACTLY like mines in a way. Trust me on that one. I noticed that both of us always build attraction, spike emotions, then escalate. I notice the way you do it is actually how I do it. When I couldn't get the number, I just whatever, and spiked emotions again. I escalated and went for a number again. She then gives me these millions of excuses to shit out and it WTF me.
We need to get out together! lol It'll be like me standing in a mirror watching you. ;P
Man, I flipped the script on her like the umpteenth time.
But anyways, continue to help. Right now, I'm finding a gameplan. No girl gets away from Hengman! :D
That chick's not that hot...NOT.
TJ makes (another) brilliant observation about # closing. #s by themselves are pointless, but to AFCs they're the holy grail. I can see where a girl would use the exchange as a way to assert control. Nicely handled.
I've been turned down on a # only a few times (though flaked on many times). All it takes to get a # is about 5 minutes of attraction and 5 minutes of comfort. Won't get you a close, but if you spike BT enough you generally get it. Dunno what this chick's problem is, maybe lives with a guy or something?
If you see her in person, she looks different. I met her up today and she's like WHOA in person. I'm surprised that she's a model. But opinions are opinions.
:D
And today was fuckin' bad luck!
Haha...been in Philly once..good place to sarge?
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