Tuesday, March 18, 2008

St. Patty's Day FR

Hello, once again. I would like to share some things that I realized last night. I know that to some of you these might already be a processed realization. However, in my quest to be the best I am still on first, stealing second.

So my night started off just like any other. I went out with a friend, Wee Man, to the local karaoke bar where I like to start out my night. Being St. Pats I figured the place would be crawling with HB's. This was not the case. After polishing off our pitcher we left to go pick up my buddy, Lost, due to it being his birthday. We then went to another place known for being loaded with HB's, called The Crown. Here is where this FR really starts. (I am finally beginning to conquer my AI. It has been tough, but everything after opening seems to go well. I am starting to wonder why I have any AI in the first place.) Walking into The Crown, myself and Lost peacocked to the max. We figured since it was St. Patty's we really needed to step it up. I was wearing a sparkly green leprechaun hat, a green lei that has blinking lights built in to it, and and some Mardi Gras style green beaded necklaces. Lost, had his jester hat, and all sorts of green necklaces and other green paraphenalia. Low and behold we were one of just a few people in there that had something green other than a t-shirt, shoes, or whatever.

We started opening sets, and just generally partying with everyone on our side of the bar. It seemed that the more people we talked to the easier it was to get others opened and get past the HP. At some point throughout the night, there were 2 HB's walking through the bar that I had met on a previous night. We will call them HB9 Cheese , and HB7 Sauce, due to their self imposed nicknames. Lost, looks over at me and says, "Hey! Look at them, we need to get their beads." (We were on a mission to trade for the best gear in the place.) I told him, that I already knew them and that we should go talk to them. So turned and headed directly for a set that was on the path that they were headed. I was thinking, wasn't he just talking about Cheese, and Sauce. So as they walk past, he gets them involved in the conversation with the other set. They hooked like starving trout. The next thing I know, he's telling them " Hey you guys really need to meet my buddy, Alan." Both at the same time look over at me and go "ALAN! We thought we might never see you again." Then came running up and each gave me a huge hug. (Personally, I thought that I had completely bombed this set the first night that I met them.) We talked for a while, with Lost pulling some great wing action. (Note that Lost has a GF and mostly just helps me with my game when we go out. He is a natural, but understands most of the concepts behind PU.) I must also give credit to TJ for his article on humor, and was able to apply some of that in my sets. So, after a few minutes in set Cheese and Sauce decide that they want to have their picture taken with me. By the end of the night, I had Cheese cuddling up to me outside the bar because she was "cold." And I was able to myspace close both of them. And am currently trying to get HB Cheese out to my brothers house for a a Day 2 of playing with 2 mo. old bear cubs.

I also just noticed that I had already lost my leprechaun hat by this point. It made its way onto the head of another girl sometime during the night.

My realizations from last night were:

It is just as easy to open and run sets of HB7,8,9's as it is 5's & 6's (This was a big one for me, because I have always had the "their out of my league" mindset for 8's, 9's, & 10's)

Having a great wing is critical to a learning curve.

and last but certainly NOT least

Even if think that you have completely f**ed up a set, if you see them again, try again and you may find that such was not the case.

Some chick crack that I have found:

Talking about the book "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne (If you haven't read it yet, read it!!)

My brother is the head animal manager at a drive through bear park, and hand raises and bottle feeds the bear cubs in the spring. Girls love that shit, even if they don't actually get to see the bears they love to hear about it.

Questions:

What are some good responses to being called gay?

What are some good techniques to lead into kissing? I have a problem feeling like its "the right time." And should I lead to somewhere away from her friends or just go for it in front of them?

Also, I went onto Cheese's myspace profile and found 1 pic of me from the 1st night that I met them, and already 3 from last night on there. I am the only guy with pic of just me and her from last night, and also from the 1st night my pic is on there with my name and is next to a pic labeled "This guy just wanted his picture taken with us." I never asked to have my picture taken, and it was very surprising to me to see 4 pics of me on her page. What are your opinions of this? Or does it really not mean anything?

I would love to hear feedback, and opinions. I am still feeling pretty "green" when it comes to PU. I will get better at organizing my thoughts into better FR's, please bear with me.

Thanks,
Knowledge

3 comments:

Rob Judge said...

Wassup dude -

Great FR. I like the pictures, you look like a PUA - living in your own reality and not giving a fuck...nice!

Anyway, re: your questions...

1.) What are some good responses to being called gay?

There's no single answer to this question since the answer is contingent on 1.) who's asking (male of female, obstacle or target, etc.), 2.) why they're asking, 3.) at phase of the PU they're asking, 4.) other contingencies I can't think of right now lol

Basically, getting called gay can either be an IOD, IOI, or a shit-test. If your target keeps asking if you're gay (even when you're in the C phases), it's just like her asking if you have a girlfriend. I find VERY hot chicks (HB9+) are sometimes so shocked to meet a guy who isn't completely drooling over them and getting nervous, they assume it's because you're either gay or have a super hot girlfriend you're cheating on. In that situation, I usually answer honestly the first time than, when they keep bringing it up, I make ridiculous comments like, "Yeah, I'm totally gay. I'm like the biggest gay playa in all of New York. I'm just using you to keep my secret identity under the radar..so, um, keep making out with me." or something to that effect. Use whatever she says to pump her own BT...

If they're asking because you're dressed outrageously or speaking like a gay guy (which I've also gotten), that's usually an IOD or a shit-test. Responding with something like, "What is it about gay guys that turns you on so much?" is funny (works with any IOD a girl throws at you). Also, just shaking your head and stacking is a good way not to buy into that frame. Or shaking your head and saying something like, "Wow, do you ask that of all the hot guys you talk to or just me?" Basically just make them feel like assholes for bringing it up.



What are some good techniques to lead into kissing? I have a problem feeling like its "the right time." And should I lead to somewhere away from her friends or just go for it in front of them?

Simply go for it. I'm becoming more and more of an expert on this and I'm realizing I need to work on my caveman game. I usually go for the kiss 15 minutes into a PU and find that's waiting about 5 minutes too long. A few recent examples. I was gaming one chick, simply went for the kiss and she turned away. I acted like it didn't happen, stacked with a story, and mid-way through the story, she grabbed me and started kissing me. Also on Saturday I was gaming up this SMOKING HB9.5 blonde and not losing myself in her IOIs (again, she hit me with a lot of fast IOIs up front but I learned my lesson from HB Blue Dress). I was gaming her for about 15 minutes but was hesitating on pulling the trig because I "didn't want to fuck it up" (completely hypocritical, I know). Finally, I could tell her BT cooling off and she mentioned having to go to the bathroom. I'm thinking "FUCK" and realized it was because I wasn't escalating. So I made a quick joke, got her laughing, then simply pulled her into me, turned her hat around like HB10s do to guys (she was wearing some AFC's green Yank hat lol) and she started smiling and pulled me into her. Boom. Make out in front of all her friends and all my friends. My friend Eddie actually high fived me mid-makeout (hil-arious).

Basic rule of thumb: If you feel like kissing, go for it. Girls want it just as bad IF NOT MORE than you do. If she turns you down, acting like you didn't even notice is a DHV. She's probably shot down tens to hundreds of guys on the makeout but I'll bet she never met ONE who didn't act like a little insecure bitch after the fact.

The only caveat though is this: Do it when her BT is spiked. Best times are when she's cracking up at CF line or she's giving you the "I don't believe you just said that" face. Once you see her BT needle jump, pull the trigger!


Also, I went onto Cheese's myspace profile and found 1 pic of me from the 1st night that I met them, and already 3 from last night on there. I am the only guy with pic of just me and her from last night, and also from the 1st night my pic is on there with my name and is next to a pic labeled "This guy just wanted his picture taken with us." I never asked to have my picture taken, and it was very surprising to me to see 4 pics of me on her page. What are your opinions of this? Or does it really not mean anything?

Don't read into this too much. In fact, don't even look at her MySpace page, it'll just mess you up. The only IOIs you can trust are the ones you get in person. Computer IOIs are worthless.

Great post, great job!

~TJ

PS Really happy to hear you used my humor material. It's funny how people always compliment my posts but I never hear about any success stories with people using them. I'm glad my post helped!

I-Man said...

Great answers by TJ. Here is one thing i like to do when i get shit tested. If they ask if you are gay, or basically any yes or no question...

Shake your head for the real answer to their shit test or question, and verbally answer in the opposite way.

Ex.
HB: Are you Gay?
PUA: (Shake your head 'No', pause for 2 seconds... then while you are still shaking your head, verbally answer 'yes')

This works great because body language expresses like 90% of communication, so the head shake gives them the real answer, and by saying the opposite while you are still shaking your head, its funny and mysterious.

Just a little fun thing to play with. I would practice this first because it feels very odd to pair a nod with a verbal 'no', likewise a head shake with a verbal 'yes'. I have always gotten good responses after i do this though. Good FR!

Xtreme Knowledge said...

Thanks for the great feedback guys. I-man, I like that idea about shaking your head one way and verbally answering the other. I think that I will definitely be trying that out. TJ, I was kinda thinking along those lines with the myspace page.

Knowledge