So, I know some of you guys have issues with subway/car/etc., game. It's something that I've become solid in over my time doing this shit. I can also understand why.
So, I'm on SEPTA a lot here for traveling. Gas is high, so I tend not to drive. Plus, I lost my driver's ID. Sucks. Traveling by using a public transportation service is MUCH cheaper than taking a car around. It is also good for meeting people, too. I know what people want to ask me and that is, "How do you do it, Gerry?"
Simple.
So, over here, the subway is only two dollars to get on. Same with the bus and so forth. Now, depending on finding targets on the subway (which is hard), time is a BIG factor. Best times to go on a subway to do subway game are during rush hour times. Go when people are going to work or coming back from work. Most of the targets are there. However, even if you approach, approach with solid game.
Here's an example of what I would do:
Me - Hey, you look like you bite. What's your name?
As you can see, I approached with pure confidence. Even if your voice is shaky as shit, she'll be like, "Wow, he fuckin' just approached me in front of EVERYONE. I like him."
When this happens, you have the biggest set of IOIs from her. She'll constantly throw them at you. This is where you should escalate since these are escalation windows. Alright, less calibration and more escalation would lead to a faster close.
She doesn't have time for you. What I mean by this is that she can get off any stop at ANY time. This is why quick escalation works. Use your situation to your advantage after opening directly.
Example:
Me - What's the weather like today? It's pretty nice outside.
Girls get thrown off guard and they qualify to these little questions. These are indirect qualifiers. When the girls qualified to you, you should qualify back.
Example:
Her - Yeah. It's like 80 degrees. I love it.
Me - Me too. You like the sun a lot, then?
Her - Yeah, I do.
Me - Well, I tan a whole bunch during the summer.
Sometimes, it's the little things we say that we never give credit to.
Keep following this. Do incidental kino (touch her shoulder, tap her arm with your backhand, hit her leg, etc.) the whole way. Doing so lowers her ASD and raises rapport, thus attraction. After this, go into a phase of just literally bragging about yourself in a good way. They don't care about what you have to say. It's what you do that matters.
Then, qualify her into your world directly. Tell her that you like her for some reason.
Example:
Me - Well, I like you a lot. Only because you're the only (insert name here) I know.
After 2-10 minutes, close. Go in with a number. Or, if you can, get a makeout. I usually would get a makeout on the subway in the weirdest environment.
One thing that I end things off with is, "So, are we just talking or can I take you home and we can have some fun?" Just an example. My frame the whole conversation is set off to dominant. If you lose your frame just a little, you lose her all of the way.
I had this girl on the subway in April. I build good attraction with her, but I forgot to qualify to her. We got off the same stop and I asked for the number. First response from her, "But -- but I don't know you." I then WTF'd and it destroyed me.
But I found out that the use of indirect qualifiers works when in any situation. She would never know how she knew you, and you never knew how you knew her. But, it's the use of indirect qualifiers that allows this to happen. Magical stuff.
Frame:
1) Open confidently.
2) Kino escalate, indirect qualify her and then yourself.
3) DHV and kino escalate.
4) Qualify direct.
5) Kino escalate. Close.
-Gerry.
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I really like this post...i'm on the bus all the time and you're right finding targets is extremely hard.
I'm a little confused about what your talking about with indirect qualifiers however. I actually never knew there were two such things as indirect and direct qualifying. From what you said I am gathering that:
Indirect qualifying is asking her some fluff leading to a qualifying question(You like the sun a lot then?) that she will try and qualify herself to you(Yeah, I do.). You can use this situation to DHV (Well, I tan a whole bunch during the summer.)
and
Direct qualifying is simply a statement saying that she qualifies
for said reason and you calibrate with an IOD. (Well, I like you a lot. Only because you're the only (insert name here) I know)
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Sorry about the massive questioning...my A3 is still in progress =).
One more thing, on your opening do you just run basic A1? (Sit down if she is, stand if she is etc)
And my last question...this situation always stumped me...have you ever opened a HB who has her headphones in? I was thinking of just walking up, pulling out one of her headphones and talking but that scares the shit out of me! Suggestions?
Great post thanks Hengman!
Haha, shadow....you were going strong till you talked about direct qualifying, then you were a little less strong.
Direct qualifying is more like, "Are you adventurous?". It is more in the form of a direct question. In the simplest of terms, direct qualifying is when you take your list of qualities that you want from a girl, and quiz her to see if she meets your standards. Also, it is good to mask your question with fluff and NLP variations to get a more authentic answer.
Your are on about indirect qualifying...its kinda fluff talk, but still gets her to contribute.
Qualifying.... is all about seeing if she meets up to your standards. Also, it is gaging whether or not she complies with the tests that you give her. If she doesn't answer a qualifying question, you need to build more attraction. That is the law. If she answers a qualifying question with little or no hesitation, chances are she is attracted to you. :)
Your last couple questions are up to Hengman or someone else, i don't have experience in that area.
Peace
:)
Shadow, you're pretty much on point right now. I-Man answered your question for the indirect and direct qualifying part.
As for opening, it depends on your situation (if you're already sitting or if you're standing). If you're sitting and a chick sits next to you, open her right away. However, if you're standing and you see a target, go up to her and sit and then open her. Opening doesn't really matter because if you just say something to them in a confident manner (no matter how shaky your voice is), she'll be like, "DAMN! I like him already."
And your second question, I would NEVER touch a girl's facial area until she's fully comfortable (which is around A3 and up). If you want to speak with a girl with headphones in her ears, you should simply use your body to communicate with her. Examples:
-Waving your hand in her face or waving your hand at her confidently.
-Tapping her shoulder.
-Make a stupid face at her (yes, it works. I've tried it a lot) like she has something on her face.
After this, she should take one or both ear pieces out. This would be a good time to open her. A good example would be, "Hey, are those working for you?"
She'll be like, "Yeah."
You - Well I just wanted to know because I was trying to get me one of those to keep all of those girls from hitting on me all of the time.
She'll then probably laugh and you then put your hand on her shoulder and tell her, "Well, I thought you would be nice to know. You have that kind of intimidation to you. What's your name?" From there, escalate on her and qualify her with what you like about her or whatever (this is an example of qualifying in general).
Remember to keep doing approaches, but keep yourself on guard and fill your holes up to have solid game. You're on that path. Good luck.
Nice Gerry!
Did you ever get my text?
Anyway, I was gonna post something similar to this about opening in "urban" settings.
My day game is 100 direct. Usually Shock and Awe type stuff. I figure it's the ONLY manly approach since you might only have a few seconds.
One little hurdle I just got over (with A LOT of rough field testing!) is stopping an oncoming girl. All day super hotties were walking by me and I had no idea how to stop them an open. Now I've been doing with consistency and getting 30 second number closes (much of which end up as solid D2s). Here's my opener:
(When HB is 3-5 feet away)
TJ: Oh my God! (said in funny, sort of like 'you did not!' tonality)
HB: (confused, stops, squints) (usually girls think you went to high school with them or are mistaking them for someone else)
And here's the key moment: Lean up against a wall or lean back, put a cocky half-smile on your face, and make strong eye contact. This will bring girls back to like a moth to a light bulb.
HB: What? Do I know you?
Here's where you can just introduce yourself (i.e. "Yes, my name's Bobby. We're friends now.") but even better, I like to show my alpha-don't-give-a-fuck attitude and go super direct (credit: Cieran)
TJ: This is ridiculous.
HB: What?
TJ: You expect me to just keep walking when you're so cute. Seriously, oh my God, you're absolutely ridiculous. How'd you leave the house and not expect this to happen?
HB: Hahahaha (nervous giggles, sexual tension!)
(Hold your frame and just keep half-smiling and talking)
TJ: No, I'm not even kidding. Why did you come out looking so cute. I have places to go but now I have to stop and talk to you. Stop being cute. STOP IT!
Honestly, this is only for guys who have a strong frame and are completely confident. I still fuck this up repeatedly because a girl will stop and I know what I'm about to say, fumble it, then just "uhhh..nevermind" and scamper off. However, if you deliver this, it'll get you a #-close/instant date/street makeout in 2 minutes. Just keep blaming her for being cute (but don't be a chode about it, seriously act like it's an absurdity) and then dominant the conversation. For example, if she says:
HB: Haha, where are you coming from?
TJ: I'm Bobby. Who're you?
HB: HB Cutie, but wait, are you coming from work?
TJ: Are you cool? Can I trust you?
See, the key with going direct and not coming off as a chode or a creepy is VALUE. If you dominate and act like a MAN then going direct will make you 10-50X more attractive to women than pussyfooting indirectly.
But it takes PRACTICE and CALIBRATION. speaking of which, I MUST open 2 sets on my walk home. Almost time...
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