I'm just going to throw down the FR I put in the forums due to me being too tired to try to pry more details out if it. It's lengthy as is, so I apologize. Man, the makeout was solid on pretty much all body language.... but after that, I just botched it. I mean, I'm not trippin off it too hard, because it was definitely still an improvement on prior experiences (i.e. last night not closing), but I was too in my head and state was off. Whatevs, here it is:
Alright, so last night was a big success as far as being in state and just being out of my on head and just self-amused. Tonight I was having trouble getting back to that. The venue was darker, more compact, and sketchy as hell, and with the incredibly crappy music (danceable, but not awesome) too loud to game, it was all a body language night.
Basically, I was having social proof issues. My people I was rolling with were far too drunk, and were DLVing me so I had to cut them loose. I was pinging from person to person I knew in the room, but no one I could really work with and gain some status. The one girl i could had her (underage and massively drunk) sister with here... needless to say, that one ended poorly.
I haven't opened one set of people I didn't know the entire night, and I'm still just getting my dance on in the crowd. I must have been oozing something awesome because this girl just got super close out of no where. We made eye contact, but I was still body rocking and acting like I was looking for my friends. She comes with the "Do I know you from somewhere?" It's a small college, it's quite well possible. I think we had a pretty good time back in October at a party, but... hell, I don't remember that far back and I sure as hell didn't see that girls face. HB 7.5 introduces herself (not that I can hear), I return in kind, and she's dancing in front of me a little distance away.
Here's where things got interesting. I was far too far in my own head tonight, but I would not be denied. This other guy was about to pull up behind her so I grabbed her hand and brought her in on my leg. She eventually turned around, and I was running light kino on her. In my mind, two things are happening. 1) This is a Red Light Party, and you wear green if you're available, yellow if unsure, and red if spoken for. I'm wearing maroon because it's th best almost-red shirt I have; she's wearing black. So much for signals.. unless I just came off as non-threatening due to my red. 2) With all of this bump and grind I'm telegraphing interest far too quickly.
My boy C-Frenchy walks by, and he was running for office in an election that ended tonight. So, while I'm grind on her, I pull him in and ask about the results. TALK ABOUT NON-NEEDY! I was liable to walk off at any point. I was proud of this, and I figured she got the message when she started working it harder. I kino more aggressively (when in doubt, escalate), and I'm thinking this is going well to say the least. In my head again, I'm looking for a BT spike to move. She starts clawing at my leg (!) so I grab her hand and walk her to the far wall in a bit-darker spot. We get back to dancing, aggressive kino, the usual. I turn her around, continue. Turn her around, continue. I'm losing her... escalate! I spin her around one more time, and pull her in between my legs instead of straddling like before. I tilt her chin up and BOOM, makeout baby!
We'll ignore the fact that I was wearing a red shirt for a reason. Thus is life when you're working on pick-up.
After a little bit, I pull away first, and spin her around to dance up on it again.
And here is where it starts crumbling apart...
SHE pulls me to the middle of the floor. We dance a bit more. She moves towards my ear, so since I can't hear, I'm thinking she's telling me something. I have to pull her to the back of the room, and it turns out she was trying to nibble on my ear. HA... fuck.
SHE invites me to a party across campus that might still be going on. We head from the main room up to get our stuff. I'm just seeing a bunch of people I know on the way up and chatting them up little by little. However, we are no longer holding hands, so there goes my kino. FUCK! We get our stuff, and we're walking. No kino. I didn't really know how to re-initiate, and her BT dropped. I'm thinking I'm at least in comfort at this point, but she's the one who starts putting me through the 1st degree. For some reason, I was still negging, so when she mentioned she's from SoCal, I just kept hitting her hard on it. Too much. I guess this wasn't smooth. We get to the other venue, and it's done. I see more people I know, so I'm trying to DHV because I feel like I've lost her at this point. I run a "What's your life story" qualification thing to get back into it, so we go on that a little bit. I get a phone call (why the hell am I so popular tonight?), and have to chat with him for a minute. Then I see another person I know while we're walking back to her dorm. We get inside, and then that's it. Wish her a good night, and slink home alone.
Good Points:
~ Body Language was solid
~ Kino Escalation
~ Way to be Mr. Popular
~ Makeout, bitch!
~ Overall advancement from last night; Poorer state and out-of-my-head scenarios, but actually moved and K-closed.
Poor:
~ Pretty much everything after the makeout
~ Comfort... non-existent.
~ Walked her back to her dorm... and nothing. WHY DID I LET BT PLUMMET??
Ohh well, tomorrow night is another big party night... maybe I'll truly run some material and legitimize my growth.
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Skizzle -
Nice fist post...lots of good stuff in here. Since it's my nature to critique everything, I'll point out what I'd do different (judging from my experience).
Okay, dance floor game stopped for me once I learned PUA. I remember back when I was 17, I went to some teen club and made out with 5 girls in one night just walking up to chicks, grinding on them, then going for the kiss close. I brought this "grind and make out" routine to college and actually snagged a couple solid makeouts but they never led anywhere...
The reason dance floor makeouts are so cheap is related to state. When girls dance, they pump their own BT. Dancing is a tribal thing and I think at an instinctual level, it turns both men and women on. Just this weekend, I was chatting with Affection, and this cute HB7Japan started grinding on me to the point where she was getting on her knees and simulating oral sex. (I wasn't even paying attention to her, I was merely holding her hand while talking to Affection and Persephone (his wing woman) lol).
Additionally, I feel bar make outs are purely theatrics. The only time I go for the bar makeout is when a.) the girl is ridiculously hot and her BT is absurdly spiked, or b.) I'm putting on a show (i.e. someone comes out and wants to see me game). I can usually pull a make out in under 10 minutes if I isolate a girl. However, a trend Ga'ash and I observed is when making out too early you kill the sexual tension and forfeit some of your prizability (while also burning time you could be spending building comfort and rapport). If I do go for a bar make out, it's always spliced in between conversation. (For example, I'll kiss a girl for a few minutes then peel her off me and start qualifying her and telling her stories). Doing this only returns about a third of the girls I make out with.
I remember once Ga'ash and I were sitting in a diner and he said, "I've made out with a million random girls at bars...I'm concerned with lays" and I usually agree. Most nights I'm looking for 1.) a same night pull, or 2.) create a solid bridge to a D2 that will probably end in a lay.
Though, this brings me to an important point I want to develop in a later post: Having a game plan. I really think it's crucial when gaming to know what you're looking for. There are nights I go out and all I really feel like doing is having fun, making out with some random chicks, and pulling a few numbers. If so, I take the steps I know will lead to a quick make out (if anyone wants, I can outline them...it's fairly simple and not a gimmicky as the "phase shift"...if you simply control the frame, once the girl's in your reality, it's easy to escalate...in fact, I usually get the girl to make the first move and kiss me). However, if you're looking for a same night lay, it's better to stoke the sexual tension and go for "almost kisses" (what I mean by that is slow down your speaking, look her in the eye, start stroking her hair, make it seem like you're about to kiss her, then immediately get distracted..do this 3 or 4 times and you'll have a girl WAY more turned on than if you had simply gone for the easy make out).
But great job none-the-less. The make outs are always fun and pump your social proof (it was so funny..on Valentines Day I was making out with some girl and, once she left for 2 minutes to go to the bathroom, I got opened by 2 different girls haha)
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